I can’t see a way of answering any of your last post without it becoming a more and more subjective and emotive debate. So, I will simply agree to disagree.

I have had enough theological bun fights to last me an eternity over this stuff. I am convinced of where I stand, and I can say that I have resolved these issues for myself.

This discussion is getting to the point that it is triggering a whole bunch of emotional baggage for me, and I had best quit the field now or risk losing what shreds of faith I can still cling to.

I see God differently to you, and there is no way either of us will ever convince the other…

I humbly retreat but don’t retract.

Blessings

Wow … quite the debate going on here. I guess I’m in a place where I’m not really convinced either way. I believe that the bible is God’s word and can be analysed as a historical text and can be understand if we look at the intended audience, purpose and context of each book. I want my faith to be unwavering and my beliefs unshakable so questioning is important to me. I can’t just go with my feelings (which I’m sure I do at times) because what if I’m wrong? What if I am just trying to justify my lifestyle? What if it disappoints my heavenly father? I will keep trying to understand what God says through the bible because I don’t want to get it wrong. God is love but he is also just … I fear Him.

Well as we have all gathered by now I am a fan of debates but only to the point in which it is healthy, rational and to the point. If this discussion has brought up some baggage for you Mags then I respect your decision to live and let live. I certainly don’t want to be the cause of any distress.

hi all… i know i havent been on here much but at some point in there near future i am going to put up my scriptural non personal view of what the Bible says about homosexuality.

There is so much emotional argument on this topic, and whilst that is good and well and that ultimately gives us true piece (in my opinion) i think Sandy appears to be searching for a scriptural basis for opinion.

I do however work alot so it will come soon… soon and very soon…

I believ the foundation of my argument involves scripture and language translation. I do not think the Bible in its current translation can be used in an argument against Homosexuality as it is not pure in its translation. There is definitive errors…

anyway… all in good time

I’m reminded also of the verse iron sharpen iron.

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