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magsdee
Disabled
Joined in 2006
March 9, 2008, 19:05

You are so sweet Leece xx Its been awesome having you as a friend and you were such a support to me in so many ways when I was going through the thick of it and visiting me in hospital, when I felt the most alone…….Thankyou my friend 😀 Im so so happy you have a special woman in your life. Keep the torch burning for the ladies, things will change.

God has and always will be my inspiration to be a better person and hopefully maybe I can show in my imperfection a smidgeon of what Jesus is like.

leece
 
Joined in 2007
March 9, 2008, 21:02

i had forgoten about you been in hospital .

just one thing i dont have that person in my life i wish i did i would be the happest girl .

but i do have a very good freind that i live with and yes i did hope some thing might happen there but it has not worked out that way.

most women can not stand the thought of been in a re/ship with us .

thats ok there has to be the chemestry there both ways.

90% of us will never have that love but we have to learn to except that and try to work our lives around it.

i do have a lot of lovely freinds.


leece

magsdee
Disabled
Joined in 2006
March 12, 2008, 10:00

Ok since we can express how we feel, here it goes for me……a few easy words…….Yayyyyyyyy I am admin only 😀 Personally I have felt hammered for my beliefs over and over again(indirectly), sure if you disagree with me fine and me with you thats cool but we dont go on and on about it until someone feels pummled to the ground, Im not here to prove a point but to be amongst those of us who seek refuge from prejudices. I will show you why I believe the way I do but its not my intention to convert anyone to my means of belief, everyone is responsible for their own decision once its put out there. Anyhow its been soooooooo good to meet some awesome people on here 😀 and for the time that F2B was other than a place for just argueing it was great. Im sorry but this is how I have started to feel and its time for me not to read posts anymore, stories yes but thats it. Love one another and continue in the freedom that you have discovered, whatever that may be. Its time to smell the roses…….. 8)

Desperate4Truth
 
Joined in 2008
March 12, 2008, 11:22

Oh sweety good for you! I agree, this site should not just be a place for arguments. I am sorry if I ever came across like that in any way. This forum has been such a blessing for me, you have no idea. And for what its worth, I think you are a great moderator. Your not a Libra are you?? I wouldnt be surprised. 😆

magsdee
Disabled
Joined in 2006
March 12, 2008, 11:34

😆 no aries/pisces cusp LOL………I dont mind debates at all but outright against us statements, praying against us having rights statements,you get that on Christian & other sites and in everyday life, didnt expect it in its intensity in here, I dont bare any grudges I really dont, just disappointed. Yes F2b has helped me lots and with that I am continueing and running with at least. Dont be sorry 😆 I like a good debate but not one that brings a person down.

Desperate4Truth
 
Joined in 2008
March 12, 2008, 11:53

AMEN SISTER!

That is one thing I have noticed from certain posts too. Ive thought, “well gee! If I wanted to get in to this argument, I might as well go back to the AOG church that I left!” 😕

Like you said, its good to have a debate, but like the title on the top of your sceen says….

FREEDOM 2 b[e] A GLOBAL NETWORK OF GLBTIQ PEOPLE FROM PENTECOSTAL & CHARISMATIC BACKGROUNDS


….not FREEDOM 2 b[e] A GLOBAL NETWORK OF GLBTIQ PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BE CONVERTED FROM THEIR EVIL AND UNGODLY WAYS….. 😕


network… support….uplift….


not, The bible says gays are bad so stop being so gay! lol 😕 😆

Sandy
 
Joined in 2007
March 12, 2008, 15:22

It was not and has never been my intent to make gay Christians feel hammered for their beliefs. I suppose I do expect them to justify their beliefs though and to address counter-claims.


But, it is obvious intended or otherwise that people are less than happy with what has been said it is affecting and the ethos of the site in general. I do not feel that I could post with integrity without being able to defend my point of view. If the general consensus remains that we are to be ‘affirmed’ in whatever choices we make no matter what those choice happen to be then I feel I would be unable to do so. I will not affirm a pro-gay stance and I get the impression that is what I am being asked to do, indirectly.


I have come to realize in the past few days that F2b is more about healing than belief and more about community than accountability. Which is absolutely fine, as Anthony said F2b is not a Christian forum. It does mean though that I will probably have little left to say because my entire world view around homosexuality is founded in the bible as God’s inherent word. I don’t have a whole lot left to say on the subject otherwise.


For these reasons I will step out of general discussions unless something comes up that I can post on without offending anyone sensibilities.

magsdee
Disabled
Joined in 2006
March 12, 2008, 16:26

Actually, it isnt my intention for anyone to necessarily agree with what I have to say and I dont expect anyone to change their views. Having a different angle is a good thing but trying to prove it in ways that goes round in circles isnt, if I put something out there and people dont stand on me with it, I sit back quietly once I have stated why and let it go, havent been successful at all times in doing so but thats what I try to mostly do.


This has always been a pro-gay site for those who are gay and christian, so really in many ways it is a site for people who believe but also for those who dont. There is also a resourse section for those questioning and whatever choices someone makes from that is their decision.


Accountability is between yourself and God or if you have a fellow Christian friend, then with them as a means of staying in toe as a Christian, the iron sharpening iron factor.


Im backing out by my own means not because of anyone……I need the break, I have lots happening behind the scenes and dont feel I can give my best at the moment…….But will be back at a later stage 😉
March 12, 2008, 16:35

Awww… 😥


It’s a pity that it has come to this but I can totally understand where you are coming from.

leece
 
Joined in 2007
March 12, 2008, 17:15

Hi sorry to see you pulling back maggs but i understand you need time out.


well for my 2 cents worth .


i always have believed that we should all have our own belief about god and every thing Christian.

i believe we should not be judged by our beliefs or told what we should or should not believe .

we should take out of the bible or what ever book that fits with us and leave what dose not fit.


yes i believe there is a god or what ever you want to call him or her.

i don’t go totally by what the bibles say.


i was involved in a church a few yrs ago that has no bible .

so i am very different in my beliefs.


we never ever judge any body for there beliefs .

most of these churches do except GLBTI the ones that don’t are judge mental even thou they say they are not.


when i was going throught the prosses of coming out to the world about who i was i was also going through a bitter devorce and i knew my son was about to die.

on top of that my ex did not want me to have any thing to do with my son .i had not seen him for many weeks before he died.

i was aloud to see him died on the floor for 10 min and that was all.

my name was left out of the funeral notice the funeral parour did not even know there was a father.

i was not aloud to even pick the coffin .

my ex did not want me in the main funeral car yet she wanted me to pay for it all.

boy did i get up the funeral parlour it takes a lot for me to get up set and loose my cool .

i did end up in the main funeral car only because my ex inlaws told my ex that if i was not they would not be in there either.

that was 2oo1.

so every thing i was going through a most people thought i would suicide or at lest try .i had no such thought in my mind .because of my belief the if i suicide i would have to come back and live this life again untill i got it right and learned from it.

now the church belived in this but you did not have to belive this if you did not want to . that was your choice.


any way this should maybe have been in a difrent place but its here.


love

leece
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